Apr 12, 2023
Dr. Michelle Lazarus, author of the new book, The Uncertainty Effect: How to Survive and Thrive through the Unexpected, joins host Kevin Patton for a lively discussion of of uncertainty in science, medicine, and academia.
00:00 | Introduction
00:50 | Dr. Michelle Lazarus
04:57 | Sponsored by AAA
05:31 | Why Is Uncertainty Important?
17:05 | Sponsored by HAPI
17:49 | The Uncertainty of Teaching A&P
27:07 | Sponsored by HAPS
28:05 | Uncertainty and Inclusion
36:38 | Uncertainty and Risk
38:48 | Book: The Uncertainty Effect
39:51 | Staying Connected
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I can live with doubt and uncertainty and not knowing. I think it is much more interesting to live not knowing than to have answers that might be wrong. (Richard Feynman)
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In this segment, we learn how Michelle Lazarus first became involved in studying uncertainty. We explore the kind of uncertainty our students will encounter in their clinical experiences, as well as the kind of uncertainty we face as academics. And we learn why we should avoid introducing a lot of uncertainty on the first day of class.
★ Medical Student Experiences of
Uncertainty Tolerance Moderators: A Longitudinal Qualitative Study
(article in Frontiers in Medicine by Georgina Stephens, et al.,
mentioned in this segment) AandP.info/toi
★ Embracing the tension between vulnerability and credibility: ‘intellectual candour’ in health professions education (article from Medical Education) AandP.info/p5t
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How does the uniformity we introduce to minimize uncertainty actually make things more uncertain for students? What's the difference between uncertainty tolerance and uncertainty intolerance? How can we help beginning A&P instructors with their uncertainty?
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What is the relationship between uncertainty and having an inclusive environment in our course? Are we more ethnocentric or ethnorelative in our approach? How does that affect uncertainty tolerance? What about neurodiversity?
★ Developing Intercultural
Sensitivity (book chapter from The Handbook of Intercultural
training; expands on concepts of intercultural sensitivity spectrum
discussed in this segment) AandP.info/3pm
★ Uncertainty-Identity Theory (paper from Advances in Experimental Social Psychology) AandP.info/vq1
What is it about uncertainty that has surprised Dr. Lazarus? What's the difference between uncertainty and risk?
★ The Uncertainty Effect: How to Survive and Thrive Through the Unexpected (book by Michelle Lazarus) geni.us/mUYvgyU
Guest: Dr. Michelle Lazarus
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