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Jul 29, 2019

Host Kevin Patton presents a remix of classic segments from the TAPP Radio archive, all related to the role of human remains in teaching and learning anatomy. Features two conversations with Aaron Fried.

01:00 | Introduction to the Special Episode
04:35 | Sponsored by HAPS
04:57 | The Silent Teacher | Aaron Fried
30:07 | Sponsored by AAA
30:25 | Situs Inversus
46:32 | Sponsored by HAPI Online Graduate Program
46:59 | Book Club x 3
56:26 | Podcast Award Nomination
57:20 | The Nazi Anatomists | Aaron Fried

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The way I see it, being dead is not terribly far off from being on a cruise ship. Most of your time is spent lying on your back. The brain has shut down. The flesh begins to soften. Nothing much new happens, and nothing is expected of you. (Mary Roach)


1 | Introduction to the Special Episode

3.5 minutes

This is the second of a series of special episodes in which classic segments from past episodes that all reflect a similar theme are brought together for further review and reflection.

The general topic of this special episode revolves a recurring theme of this podcast:

using human remains (and reproductions) in teaching anatomy

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2 | Sponsored by HAPS

0.5 minutes

The Human Anatomy & Physiology Society (HAPS) is a sponsor of this podcast.  You can help appreciate their support by clicking the link below and checking out the many resources and benefits found there. 

Anatomy & Physiology Society

 HAPS logo


3 | The Silent Teacher—A Conversation with Aaron Fried

25 minutes

Aaron Fried, A&P faculty at Mohawk Valley Community College and national speaker on human body donation and anatomists in Nazi Germany, joins Kevin for a lively discussion of the value of "the silent teacher"—the human body donor—in teaching human structure. This chat touches on the value of respect and appreciation of human donors, proper implementation of human remains such as skeletons in A&P courses, and how that respect should extend to reproductions of human specimens.

This is the first of two conversations with Aaron Fried. The next episode (Episode 30) will delve more deeply into the anatomy illustrations produced by anatomists in Nazi Germany and the many ethical questions surrounding their continued use in anatomy labs around the world.

Anatomy Lesson of Dr. Tulp


4 | Sponsored by AAA

0.5 minute

The searchable transcript for this episode, as well as the captioned audiogram of this episode, are sponsored by The American Association of Anatomists (AAA) at

 American Association of Anatomists


5 | Situs Inversus

16 minutes

Situs inversus is a mirrorlike flipping of visceral organs that occurs in embryonic development. Also called situs transversus or situs oppositus. Normal siting of organs is called situs solitus.

  • Situs inversus and my 'through the looking glass' body (recent article by someone living with situs inversus)
  • Body donor's rare anatomy offers valuable lessons (press release on recent 99-year old donor with situs inversus with levocardia)
  • Heart Transplantation in Situs Inversus Maintaining Dextrocardia (interesting study of transplanting 'normal' hearts into patients with dextrocardia)



6 | Sponsored by HAPI Online Graduate Program

0.5 minute

The Master of Science in Human Anatomy & Physiology Instruction—the MS-HAPI—is graduate program for A&P teachers. A combination of science courses (enough to qualify you to teach at the college level) and courses in instructional practice, this program helps you power up  your teaching. Kevin Patton is a faculty member in this program. A new cohort starting in the fall trimester is starting now, so check it out!

 NYCC Human Anatomy and Physiology Instruction

7 | Book Club (x3)

9.5 minutes

Kevin revisits several book recommendations from the TAPP Book Club —all related to this episode's theme.

  • The Anatomist
    • by Bill Hayes
    • Book about Henry Gray and illustrator Henry Vandyke Carter)
  • The Silent Teacher: The Gift of Body Donation
    • by Dr. Claire Smith
    • Book about body donation in anatomical education
  • Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers
    • by Mary Roach
    • Ten Things We Use When Embalming (blog post by a funeral director, shows the little discs with hooks that keep eyelids closed)

 book club

8 | Podcast Award Nomination

1 minute

The A&P Professor podcast needs additional nominations to get to the next round of The People's Choice Podcast Awards. Lot more. Will you please take a moment to nominate this podcast? And ask your friends and relatives, even strangers, to also nominate us?

These must be completed by the end of July!

 Podcast Award

9 | The Nazi Anatomists—A Conversation with Aaron Fried

21 minutes

Aaron Fried, A&P faculty at Mohawk Valley Community College and national speaker on human body donation and anatomists in Nazi Germany, joins Kevin for a lively discussion of the value of "the silent teacher"—the human body donor—in teaching human structure. In this second of two chats, Aaron discusses illustrations produced using executed prisoners in Nazi Germany and what this means for today's A&P teacher.


Pernkopf atlas

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