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The A&P Professor Podcast
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Content updates and teaching advice for teachers of human anatomy & physiology (A&P) from professor, author, and mentor Kevin Patton. 

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Sep 28, 2020

Students want things easy. We often make it hard for them. Host Kevin Patton discusses desirable difficulty and contrasts it with undesirable difficulty. Did you know that healthy human cells have little sections of 4-stranded DNA? We can be better in our web meeting skills. And don't forget our new online community of anatomy & physiology faculty!

  • 00:46 | G4 DNA
  • 05:58 | Sponsored by AAA
  • 06:38 | Even More Web Meeting Ideas
  • 18:55 | Sponsored by HAPI
  • 19:55 | Desirable Difficulty
  • 35:35 | Sponsored by HAPS
  • 36:26 | Our New Online Community
  • 39:54 | Staying Connected

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5 minutes

Oh, come on! Is there really a quadruple-strand DNA in our normal, healthy cells? Or is that only in space aliens? Or zombies?

  • Quadruple-stranded DNA seen in healthy human cells for the first time (news summary of the discovery)
  • Single-molecule visualization of DNA G-quadruplex formation in live cells (journal article in Nature Chemistry)
  • Image: G-quadruplex by Julian Huppert

G-quadruplex 4-strand DNA structure


Sponsored by AAA

1 minute

A searchable transcript for this episode, as well as the captioned audiogram of this episode, are sponsored by the American Association for Anatomy (AAA) at

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Don't forget—HAPS members get a deep discount on AAA membership!

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Even  More Web Meeting Ideas

12 minutes

Yep, more Zoom. In this segment, Kevin talks about unintended harmful effects of banter, comments on home webcam locations, and turning off video. Plus some advice on backgrounds, both real and virtual. And stuff.

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Sponsored by HAPI Online Graduate Program

1 minute

The Master of Science in Human Anatomy & Physiology Instruction—the MS-HAPI—is a graduate program for A&P teachers, especially for those who already have a graduate/professional degree. A combination of science courses (enough to qualify you to teach at the college level) and courses in contemporary instructional practice, this program helps you be your best in both on-campus and remote teaching. Kevin Patton is a faculty member in this program. Check it out!

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Desirable Difficulty

15.5 minutes

Robert Bjork proposed that the difficulties posed by retrieval practice, spacing, and interleaving are desirable difficulties that improve learning. But there are undesirable difficulties that do not help learning. Why must learning be difficult? How can we avoid undesirable difficulty? Hey, wait! Aren't we supposed to make learning easy for students?!

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Sponsored by HAPS

1 minute

The Human Anatomy & Physiology Society (HAPS) is a sponsor of this podcast.  You can help appreciate their support by clicking the link below and checking out the many resources and benefits found there. Watch for virtual town hall meetings and upcoming regional meetings!

Anatomy & Physiology Society

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Our New Community

3.5 minutes

Take The A&P Professor experience to a new level by joining the new online private community away from distracting social media platforms, tangle email threads, and the roiling sea of available webinars.

  • Discussions that matter. In our private space, we can have the vulnerability needed for authentic, deep discussions. Discussions not limited to a sentence or two at a time.
  • No ads. No spam. No fake news. No thoughtless re-shares. Just plain old connection with others who do what you do!
  • Privacy. The A&P Professor community has the connectivity of Facebook and Twitter, but the security of a private membership site. None of your information can be shared outside the community, so you can share what you like without it being re-shared to the world. Like your dean, for instance. In our community, you can share your frustrations freely. And find support.
  • No algorithms. You get to choose what you want to see. You curate your own feed, selecting only those topics that interest you. Join subgroups that resonate with who you are—or who you want to be.
  • Access to mentors and like-minded peers. Our community is made up of all kinds of people from all over the world, each with different perspectives and experiences of teaching A&P. Find members near you—or far away. Connect with members online at that moment.
  • Courses, groups, and live events. As the community grows, we'll add mini-courses and micro-courses—some with earned micro-credentials, live virtual office hours with me and other mentors or guests, private special-interest groups, and more.
  • There is a very modest subscription fee to join our community. All subscriptions include a free trial period!

Deep discount on subscription to The A&P Professor community (good all of September 2020)

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